Michael
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Post by Michael on Mar 18, 2010 13:51:27 GMT -5
Michael, Does it bother you at all that the US' hands are dirty? No, I knew they were (very much at the moment)...But then so are everybody's.
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Post by Stephen on Mar 18, 2010 16:24:15 GMT -5
Now that I have responded to your question, please demonstrate how this information contributes to the validation of your position.
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phoenix
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This has all just gotten so bizarre and pointless...
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Post by phoenix on Mar 18, 2010 17:00:50 GMT -5
Now that I have responded to your question, please demonstrate how this information contributes to the validation of your position. Yes, same here. I want my question answered. I provided evidence, like you asked, if you don't like it disprove it. You told me you would answer my question, are you going to keep your word?
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Post by Stephen on Mar 19, 2010 10:23:33 GMT -5
Michael?
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albpilot
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Post by albpilot on Mar 19, 2010 11:12:07 GMT -5
If you all are going to continue this huge thing covering multiple threads, perhaps it might be good to start one new one and everyone take a starting position. And have an impartial moderator.
Just a thought.
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KevinR
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Post by KevinR on Mar 19, 2010 12:48:01 GMT -5
If you all are going to continue this huge thing covering multiple threads, perhaps it might be good to start one new one and everyone take a starting position. And have an impartial moderator. Just a thought. I'm about done with the discussion. It's going nowhere.
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phoenix
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This has all just gotten so bizarre and pointless...
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Post by phoenix on Mar 19, 2010 13:07:10 GMT -5
If you all are going to continue this huge thing covering multiple threads, perhaps it might be good to start one new one and everyone take a starting position. And have an impartial moderator. Just a thought. I'm about done with the discussion. It's going nowhere. I've only had one real question since the thread that started it all and michael refuses to answer it.
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KevinR
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Post by KevinR on Mar 19, 2010 13:13:06 GMT -5
I'm about done with the discussion. It's going nowhere. I've only had one real question since the thread that started it all and michael refuses to answer it. It was answered. Osama is a liar and an evil man. No he is not a patriot defending his country in any way, shape, or form. No the attacks on the World Trade Center were not called or or deserved in any way, shape, or form. No all government is not of Satan. No anarchy is not the best possible system and will never result in peace. For all eternity anarchy is not what we find, we find a government with Christ at the head. Your questions have been numerous and they've all been given answers whether you agree or not with the answers little buddy.......
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phoenix
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This has all just gotten so bizarre and pointless...
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Post by phoenix on Mar 19, 2010 13:26:19 GMT -5
I've only had one real question since the thread that started it all and michael refuses to answer it. It was answered. Osama is a liar and an evil man. No he is not a patriot defending his country in any way, shape, or form. No the attacks on the World Trade Center were not called or or deserved in any way, shape, or form. All this may be true, but I gave specific factual references to back up my beliefs a few posts into my thread, Wikipedia has footnotes that prove their facts. If what you say is true then it should be factually easy to prove.
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noski
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Post by noski on Mar 19, 2010 13:35:12 GMT -5
Kevin, You have yet to quote any scripture, New Testament or Jewish Testament that backs your claims about Jesus heading a government. At least Stephen has quoted where he is getting his stance, tho he looks as though he's hanging a lot on not much.
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Michael
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Post by Michael on Mar 19, 2010 13:39:06 GMT -5
Kevin, You have yet to quote any scripture, New Testament or Jewish Testament that backs your claims about Jesus heading a government. At least Stephen has quoted where he is getting his stance, tho he looks as though he's hanging a lot on not much. Good gravy! How many times must I post this: Isaiah 9:6-7 6 For to us a child is born, to us a Son is given, and the government will be on His shoulders. And He will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.
7 Of the increase of His government and peace there will be no end. He will reign on David's throne and over His kingdom, establishing and upholding it with justice and righteousness from that time on and forever. The zeal of the LORD Almighty will accomplish this
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KevinR
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Post by KevinR on Mar 19, 2010 13:47:20 GMT -5
Kevin, You have yet to quote any scripture, New Testament or Jewish Testament that backs your claims about Jesus heading a government. At least Stephen has quoted where he is getting his stance, tho he looks as though he's hanging a lot on not much. Michael had already done a good job posting one, but there are plenty. The Old Testament is full of promises of God to Israel of a coming Kingdom, and that Messiah would be the head of that Kingdom. I will post a couple of those verses: Is. 9:6-76 For unto us a Child is born, Unto us a Son is given; And the government will be upon His shoulder. And His name will be called Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace. 7 Of the increase of His government and peace There will be no end, Upon the throne of David and over His kingdom, To order it and establish it with judgment and justice From that time forward, even forever. The zeal of the Lord of hosts will perform this.Zech 12:8-10 8 In that day the LORD will defend the inhabitants of Jerusalem; the one who is feeble among them in that day shall be like David, and the house of David shall be like God, like the Angel of the LORD before them. 9 It shall be in that day that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem. 10 “And I will pour on the house of David and on the inhabitants of Jerusalem the Spirit of grace and supplication; then they will look on Me whom they pierced. Yes, they will mourn for Him as one mourns for his only son, and grieve for Him as one grieves for a firstborn. And the New Testament shows Christ will literally fulfill these and other prophecies: Luke 1:32-3332 He will be great, and will be called the Son of the Highest; and the Lord God will give Him the throne of His father David. 33 And He will reign over the house of Jacob forever, and of His kingdom there will be no end.”
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Michael
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Post by Michael on Mar 19, 2010 13:49:27 GMT -5
I've only had one real question since the thread that started it all and michael refuses to answer it. It was answered. Osama is a liar and an evil man. No he is not a patriot defending his country in any way, shape, or form. No the attacks on the World Trade Center were not called or or deserved in any way, shape, or form. No all government is not of Satan. No anarchy is not the best possible system and will never result in peace. For all eternity anarchy is not what we find, we find a government with Christ at the head. Your questions have been numerous and they've all been given answers whether you agree or not with the answers little buddy....... Which is what we've been saying the whole time.
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phoenix
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This has all just gotten so bizarre and pointless...
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Post by phoenix on Mar 19, 2010 14:00:35 GMT -5
It was answered. Osama is a liar and an evil man. No he is not a patriot defending his country in any way, shape, or form. No the attacks on the World Trade Center were not called or or deserved in any way, shape, or form. No all government is not of Satan. No anarchy is not the best possible system and will never result in peace. For all eternity anarchy is not what we find, we find a government with Christ at the head. Your questions have been numerous and they've all been given answers whether you agree or not with the answers little buddy....... Which is what we've been saying the whole time. So essentially you have absolutely no evidence to back up your claims about Osama. Glad we cleared that up.
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Michael
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Post by Michael on Mar 19, 2010 14:08:26 GMT -5
Which is what we've been saying the whole time. So essentially you have absolutely no evidence to back up your claims about Osama. Glad we cleared that up. Yep, same as your dad not having any evidence about Osama trying to negotiate before 9/11.
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