KevinR
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Post by KevinR on Mar 24, 2010 23:17:24 GMT -5
So what should be done about the evil governments on the planet earth? (besides complaining about them and discussing which one is more wicked than another) Well different people will answer this differently. Here is my plan of action for now although it's subject to change (some of it) 1. I pray for my government and leaders to get saved and come to Christ. Yeah I know it's not likely but I still believe I should do so as a person of faith. 2. I submit to the authorities over me and pay my taxes as I should, so that the world around me cannot make railing accusations against me. 3. I seek to change the government by following the democratic process and voting for candidates who most closely match my views which are based on my faith and what the Word of God teaches. 4. I promote those candidates and parties (Like America's Independent Party) who seem to most closely match my morals and beliefs. 5. I never stop hoping, never stop believing that America can experience a revival and a change. It's happened before. Yeah times are more difficult but that doesn't matter. 6. I preach the Gospel and try to reach people for Jesus Christ. To me changing the government is going to require changing the hearts of the people. 7. I exercise my rights to free speech and speak out against things that are wrong, like participating in abortion protests. It may be legal but that doesn't make it right. And I have the right to speak out against it. 8. I raise my family right according to God's Word and encourage everyone I know to do the same. Our country is being destroyed one family at a time and Satan knows this. This is and always has been part of his plan. If we're going to change our country and our government it starts AT HOME. Those are just a few of my current action plans to changing the government. I agree that just sitting around griping about it does none of us any good.
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noski
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Post by noski on Mar 25, 2010 10:35:39 GMT -5
Yes, it is the silent consent. This nation has stopped being run 'by the people' since November 1963.
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KevinR
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Post by KevinR on Mar 25, 2010 10:48:44 GMT -5
Yes, it is the silent consent. This nation has stopped being run 'by the people' since November 1963. Please elaborate.....
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Post by KevinR on Mar 25, 2010 10:49:14 GMT -5
I thought it was since the wicked Abe Lincoln was in office?
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Post by Stephen on Mar 25, 2010 11:07:35 GMT -5
Dan is referring to the assassination of John F Kennedy in Dallas on Nov 22, 1963, which, we believe, was essentially a coup that replaced the elected government with a shadow government that exists to this day.
You might enjoy this book: "JFK and the Unspeakable," by Douglass, published by Orbis. New book. Truly amazing reading.
Lincoln's crimes were mass violations of constitutional law including but not limited to the 1st, 4th, 5th, 9th and 10th Amendments, mass murder, invading a foreign nation and establishing slavery as a federal institution. Lincoln is guilty of many things, but is not the one Dan speaks of.
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Post by KevinR on Mar 25, 2010 11:12:42 GMT -5
Dan is referring to the assassination of John F Kennedy in Dallas on Nov 22, 1963, which, we believe, was essentially a coup that replaced the elected government with a shadow government that exists to this day. You might enjoy this book: "JFK and the Unspeakable," by Douglass, published by Orbis. New book. Truly amazing reading. Lincoln's crimes were mass violations of constitutional law including but not limited to the 1st, 4th, 5th, 9th and 10th Amendments, mass murder, invading a foreign nation and establishing slavery as a federal institution. Lincoln is guilty of many things, but is not the one Dan speaks of. I thought you were just seeking truth and weren't sure. You said "We believe"......
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KevinR
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Post by KevinR on Mar 25, 2010 11:16:10 GMT -5
What if the New World Order conspiracy is wrong Stephen?
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Post by KevinR on Mar 25, 2010 11:18:42 GMT -5
What if the New World Order conspiracy is wrong Stephen? I'm asking this as an honest question by the way. I wonder how many of your beliefs on government center around the belief in the New World Order Conspiracy Theory?
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noski
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Post by noski on Mar 26, 2010 9:51:15 GMT -5
I know what I see on the Zapruder film. Kennedy is hit while the car is behind the big sign. A second after the car emerges from behind the sign, Connally is hit. (You can actually see his cheeks puff up with air as the bullet rips through his lung). Finally, Kennedy is thrown back and to the left into his wife's arms and the back of his skull ends up on the trunk of the car.If Oswald hit him with the kill shot, why wasn't the right side of his face splattered all over the front seat? Dealy Plaza was a perfect kill zone for a kill team. The 'magic bullet' lost 2-3 grains of weight. 12-14 grains of bullet fragments were pulled from Connally's wrist alone. I am watching the beginning of the take over of the US government by 'someone'. After MLK jr and RFK were dead 5 years later, it was complete. Those left in power had been 'warned'. Men have wanted to rule the world from the beginning of mankind. What makes you think that desire died in 1945?Nobody knows what the NSA does. Too secret. nor the CIA. Same reason. I played FITS in Pennsylvania a few years back and 2 CIA men were there. Tom Clancy's name up and I cannot write what they called him in this space except ...traitor. So there must be sometruth in his works about our shadow government. To say it doesn't exsist is naive. As far as what to do? I'll never vote for a R or a D again. They are bought and payed for. I hope the lot of them are voted out in the next few years...
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Post by Stephen on Mar 26, 2010 9:56:39 GMT -5
What if the New World Order conspiracy is wrong Stephen? Then I guess all the folks who believed it will feel silly.
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Post by Stephen on Mar 26, 2010 9:58:01 GMT -5
What if the New World Order conspiracy is wrong Stephen? I'm asking this as an honest question by the way. I wonder how many of your beliefs on government center around the belief in the New World Order Conspiracy Theory? Zero.
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Post by Stephen on Mar 26, 2010 10:06:38 GMT -5
What if the New World Order conspiracy is wrong Stephen? And what if the NWO folks are right, yet, believing a lie so strong that even the elect are deceived, your beliefs are personally responsible for helping to usher in the reign of the anti-Christ, and when judgment time comes, you cry "But wait! Lord, look at all the things we did in your name?" and Christ responds, "Depart from me, I never knew you." What if your conspiracy theory about 9/11 and the "terrorists" is all wrong? If so, just think how many murders have you supported in the last ten years. Or what if all of us - me, you and the NWO folks - are totally wrong? The point is this - if you're going to start throwing out "what if's," don't just throw out one. Open your mind. Think of every possibility.
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albpilot
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Post by albpilot on Mar 26, 2010 10:36:31 GMT -5
Yes, it is the silent consent. This nation has stopped being run 'by the people' since November 1963. Please elaborate..... Based on the path the country has followed since that event, there is a virtual mountain of bad decisions and bad votes that have gutted what America was all about prior to it. And both of the major political parties are equally as guilty in the situation, it's not just the Right or the Left causing it. Not to say that there was a conspiracy in the Kennedy assassination (although I do believe there is some truth there), but you have to say that the country is in far worse shape now than it was after WWII. I tend to believe Eisenhower was right in his warning about the military/industrial complex.
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noski
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Post by noski on Mar 26, 2010 11:00:57 GMT -5
Yes, Ike was right.
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Post by KevinR on Mar 26, 2010 16:19:11 GMT -5
Actually I am not one who holds to the belief that Oswald acted alone, if he was even involved. I think he was definitely a fall guy at the least. As far as WHO was behind it, that is open for debate. I don't think you can say it was because of some great government coup. Kennedy was not that virtuous. (gasp)
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