KevinR
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Post by KevinR on Mar 24, 2010 23:09:59 GMT -5
Will it receive any posts? ;D
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Post by Stephen on Mar 25, 2010 10:09:34 GMT -5
Well that's easy to fix... CALVINIST or FREE WILL???!!!!  |
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KevinR
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Post by KevinR on Mar 25, 2010 10:42:27 GMT -5
That's easy, I believe Calvinism has had a direct hand in causing a multitude of problems in the church and in the world. It has led millions of people to utterly reject Christianity because it is not logical. People say God loves all men but if that's so how could He choose for some to be destined to eternity in hell while others He doesn't. The Bible says God desires or wills that all men be saved and come to the knowledge of the truth. The Bible is right, Calvinism is wrong. |
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Post by KevinR on Mar 25, 2010 10:52:02 GMT -5
And we won't even get into the ridiculous TULIP, or the positions that leads one to accept, such as infant baptism being required to save a baby from hell......
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Post by KevinR on Mar 25, 2010 10:57:45 GMT -5
Calvinism is just repackaged mumbo jumbo from St. Augustine and Thomas Aquinas. It's a confusing form of theology that relies heavily on pagan Greek philosophy from the likes of Plato and Aristotle. Bible verses were then found and twisted to fit the pagan Greek preconceptions of God.
I believe that God is free and able to change the future, and that He created man in His own image with the freedom to choose or reject Him and have a direct impact on our own future.....
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Post by Stephen on Mar 25, 2010 10:57:48 GMT -5
See? We're up to four posts already! And you still haven't refuted that God elects those whom he pleases. |
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KevinR
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Post by KevinR on Mar 25, 2010 11:01:06 GMT -5
See? We're up to four posts already! And you still haven't refuted that God elects those whom he pleases. I don't have to. The Word of God does that. Election doesn't mean what the Calvinist twists it to mean. The Word of God says God desires all men to be saved and come to the knowledge of the truth. If He pre-chooses some to salvation and some to d**nation then that verse cannot be true..... Or the Calvinist is wrong about election and predestination, and its very much like a predestined flight. If your flight is predestined to arrive in Florida and you get on the flight you go to Florida. If you don't get on the flight you don't go to Florida. Everyone who believes in Christ is predestined to Heaven and Salvation and are the "Elect" of God. It's their choice whether to "Get on" or not....... |
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Post by Stephen on Mar 25, 2010 11:08:45 GMT -5
See? 6 posts and counting. We're one Calvinist away from a 10 page, non-government thread! |
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Post by KevinR on Mar 25, 2010 11:08:55 GMT -5
it "pleases God" to elect those who trust in His only method of salvation, Jesus Christ His Son's sacrifice on the cross. That pleases God. 1 Timothy 2 plainly says He "Desires" all men to be saved. Either He does or He doesn't. Both cannot be true.
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Post by KevinR on Mar 25, 2010 11:09:57 GMT -5
See? 6 posts and counting. We're one Calvinist away from a 10 page, non-government thread! A Calvinist well-versed in that theology would use up 10 pages in one post trying to defend his position. Don't believe me? Go read some of AskMrReligion's posts on TOL.  |
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Post by Stephen on Mar 26, 2010 10:11:27 GMT -5
1 Timothy 2 plainly says He "Desires" all men to be saved. How many times must scripture say this before it is true? It is interesting that the Calvinists are willing to live with an apparent contradiction in their view. What would cause someone to do that? |
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Post by albpilot on Mar 26, 2010 10:30:44 GMT -5
Well that's easy to fix... CALVINIST or FREE WILL???!!!! And you say I'm an instigator...sheesh. |
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Post by Stephen on Mar 26, 2010 23:23:51 GMT -5
Hey, he wanted posts on a non-government thread.
Lo. I have provided.
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