America's Independent Party

[Stephen]

Michael, we await your considered response.

I listed eleven of the primary, fundamental motivations that compelled the founders to fight the American War for Independence.

It is noteworthy that most people who claim to be conservative Christians neither understand nor adhere to a single one of the eleven primary reasons listed that caused the founders to fight in the Revolution.

It is therefore illogical for a conservative Christian to believe that he or she would automatically have sided with the revolutionaries merely because he or she is a conservative Christian.

The plain, raw facts of history strongly indicate that the vast majority of modern conservative Christians would have remained Tories and Loyalists. Modern conservative Christians mirror the Loyalist/Tory model to near perfection.

Therefore, we should re-examine our own beliefs, and ask ourselves - honestly, in the light of historical truth - whether we truly represent the belief system of the founding fathers that we so frequently attempt to align ourselves with.

And once we make that determination, we should allow it to impact and alter our current beliefs.

[KevinR]

Stephen do you realize there are plenty of others who disagree with your interpretations of the beliefs of the founding fathers? And something else that should be stated, the government at the time was not our own. It was a foreign country controlling ours. We fought for our freedom and we won. And we established our own government.

We would have gladly stood and fought against the British with our fellow countrymen to establish our freedom from tyranny. Nothing is going to change that fact.

[KevinR]

Also there you are throwing up your "Modern Christian" strawman all over again, based on your views of "Modern Christians" (from the wrong things you were taught in Sunday School and whatever other sources). I thought you were going to refrain from doing this?

[Stephen]

Mar 18, 2010 17:55:31 GMT -5 KevinR said:

Stephen do you realize there are plenty of others who disagree with your interpretations of the beliefs of the founding fathers?

That should make responding to my eleven points even easier.

I await your specific, factual, historical response.

[Stephen]

Michael, you spent a great deal of time accusing me of avoiding questions. It would seem appropriate to expect a full and complete response from you here.

[KevinR]

Mar 19, 2010 10:26:03 GMT -5 Stephen said:

Michael, you spent a great deal of time accusing me of avoiding questions. It would seem appropriate to expect a full and complete response from you here.

I wouldn't be surprised if he's thrown his hands up in frustration and walked away because you guys are being so hard-headed and rude, and you can't see it.