Fokker Dr1 in Campaign

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AP (I hate to use that to address you but I am not sure of your name sorry),

but your information was just of the very highest order. It is exactly why this site is so valuable as a resource for DP. Thank you again - the info greatly helps. Much better than the advice I got off my wife - when I asked her about introduction dates for Dr1, she just asked if i wanted lamb for dinner !

I have used some named pilots and Gontermann is one of them. I didnt take MVR so Ill be keeping Heinrich out of his Dr1 just for the time being !!!

I note your comments about ammo on the Dr1s Spandau ..... a 100 rounds hmn ? EEEKKKKKK !!!

I have just picked up a copy of Paul Leamans book on Fokker Dr1 (published 2003) with artwork by Harry Dempsey. This is an excelent work and details the first 2 pre production machines and their fate very well. He goes on to say on pp.221 that each LMG 08/15 could contain as much as 650 rounds per gun, yet to save weight this was usually reduced to 500 rounds per gun. Not sure ifthis helps -- the book seems very well put together and I for one would not despute this figure !

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AP,
to answer your question about the campaign I have created up I would say this. The campaign date is June 1917. We have a number of Allied and german Squadrons / Jastas. Each has an OOB of about 12 machines organised into 3 flights or 4. These unite, therefore, do not have random aircraft - rather the ones allocated tothem in the campaign rules. So a British RNAS sqn has Sopwith Pups and tripes and will eventually progress onto Camels as the war progresses. Each unit has player pilots assigned to it. So this realy removes all random rolls. We roll to see which flight or which squadron is going to provide aircraft depending on which type of mission we haverolled up on thr 8th Edd rules. It seems to work well. I am more than happy to email a copy of the rules I have drawn up for my campaign to anyone who would like to look at them. be warned they do run to 32 pages and the file is pretty big. They lso go into replacing lost aircraft and all manor of other campaign related stuff !

[albpilot]

That really sounds a lot like the rules we used at HP when we played our campaign, but perhaps even more in depth. I think the ones we used originally came from the Aussie group. Basically, we started in the middle of June 1918, playing 2 missions a day for 7 days (14 total games for the campaign). There was a roll before each odd numbered game to see which side had the first mission in the morning, then the other side would run the mission for the afternoon. Mission types and possible points were set up before the campaign started. Each side had 12 aircraft to pick from and the commander on each side got to pick his aircraft as he saw fit to suit the mission parameters necessary. When the aircraft got home there were rules about how long repairs would take and replacement aircraft. There were no rules prohibiting taking up damaged aircraft if the side commander felt it necessary. I really liked how this flowed, it forced each side into making some tough decisions on how to approach the game and such (for example, sending up a fighter patrol based on 3 Bristols rather than Camels because you know you'll need the Camels the next day).

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I like the sound of that campaign too ! We use a date generator tied into months of the year. We have no actual "end of campaign" date - we are just going to get in as much as we can befir 1918 ! We think we should be able to generate around 200+ games, so that should keep us going for a while.

[alien01]

In “British Single-Seater Fighter Squadrons on the Western Front in World War I” by Alex Revell, a footnote on page 139 says “Air historians have long believed that only two Fokker Triplanes were at the front in August 1917: F.I 102/17 to Jasta 11 and F.I 103/17 to Jasta 10. Recent evidence, however, suggests the possibility that at least one additional triplane was at the front in late August or early September.”

Revell gives no additional information beyond the quote above so I don’t know what evidence he’s refering to or how substantial it might be.

[gblemings]

i would not mind, reading your rules, you can send it to
[e-mail] or [e-mail] (or both).

thanks
garyb

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I have just sent you my campaign pack in an email !

Jappy reading !