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Post by Stephen on Jun 8, 2010 22:25:24 GMT -5
Let's just drop this, or go make a new thread. That request is best directed elsewhere. I didn't bring it up, so I'm happy either way.
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Flydude
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Post by Flydude on Jun 16, 2010 12:36:42 GMT -5
It's the virtual spit on the gum on the shoe of Hades. I'm sorry did I say Hades, I meant hollywood. Avatar was IMHO a fine film, very well done and bearing a good message. I assume that your issue with the film was its portrayal of the US military as an oppressive tool by which foreign nations are forced into submission. If that is the case, your issue is not really with the film, but with actual history. As the Cherokee, Sioux, Afghans, Iroquois, Lakota, Iraqis, and many others will attest, the portrayal in the film is precisely what has occurred many times in American history. The United States has committed these crimes and continues to do so today. Rather than condemning the film for accurately portraying truth, Christians should be condemning the attacks and invasions carried out by the US military against peoples who did not attack us. I liked Avatar also, except for things: 1) It had all that "everything as god in it" crap that I just can't stand. 2) It showed the US military as the "bad guys" 3) and finally the whole "Tree of Souls" thing pushed me over the edge, luckly it was at the end of the movie. The rest I enjoyed.
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Post by Stephen on Jun 16, 2010 18:19:04 GMT -5
I liked Avatar also, except for things: 1) It had all that "everything as god in it" crap that I just can't stand. 2) It showed the US military as the "bad guys" 3) and finally the whole "Tree of Souls" thing pushed me over the edge, luckly it was at the end of the movie. The rest I enjoyed. I think you're referring to the film's fictional portrayal of God manifesting himself in nature (through trees, etc). While this is incorrect from a Christian perspective, I didn't take offense at it because it was simply a vehicle used to help create an imaginary planet in this fictional universe. Regarding the historical portrayal of the US military... I think it's important to point out that when someone invades land that belongs to someone else, they are "bad guys" whether they wear a government-issued military costume or not. The act of attacking those who did not attack us is sinful and immoral. Wearing a government costume while committing this sin does not make the sin acceptable to God. So I would encourage you not to judge the film by whether it shows a certain group, organization or club as "good" or "bad," but rather by the morality of what they do. Also, please remember that the US military does have a history of invading nations that did not attack us, and the film merely used that historical fact as a believable basis for its fictional story. And I agree that the tree of souls thing was over the top, but I can't say it bothered me. If my neighbor starts worshiping a tree of souls, then I'll get worried.
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Flydude
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Post by Flydude on Jun 21, 2010 12:30:08 GMT -5
Yes, they did attack first, which makes them the "bad guys". I'am just upset that Cameron used the US military instead of something else.
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Post by Stephen on Jun 24, 2010 21:36:26 GMT -5
Yes, they did attack first, which makes them the "bad guys". I'am just upset that Cameron used the US military instead of something else. But Cameron was trying to make two valid points - 1) that the US military routinely commits attacks against nations that did not attack us, and 2) this is not just illegal, but also morally wrong and sinful. Those are good points that are valid and Biblical. It is wonderful that a non-Christian is so strongly supporting a Biblical viewpoint in a secular film.
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Post by garrett on Jul 7, 2010 18:57:38 GMT -5
Different thread please.
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