KevinR
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Post by KevinR on Mar 15, 2010 19:20:38 GMT -5
Once again, you are assigning a position to your opponent that he does not hold. The previous thread was closed for the reasons already clearly stated, and a fresh continuation of the debate was both facilitated and encouraged. Otherwise you would not have been able to post your previous thread. Nice try, though. Ok if it wasn't "moderating"(governing) than what was it? Moderating, but he'll call it something else. ;D
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Post by Stephen on Mar 16, 2010 9:28:45 GMT -5
Once again, you are assigning a position to your opponent that he does not hold. The previous thread was closed for the reasons already clearly stated, and a fresh continuation of the debate was both facilitated and encouraged. Otherwise you would not have been able to post your previous thread. Nice try, though. Ok if it wasn't "moderating"(governing) than what was it? Are you suggesting that I am the "government" of this site?
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Michael
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Post by Michael on Mar 16, 2010 16:33:16 GMT -5
Ok if it wasn't "moderating"(governing) than what was it? Are you suggesting that I am the "government" of this site? Yes, I am. You are the sole administrator, are you not?
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Post by Stephen on Mar 17, 2010 16:58:13 GMT -5
Are you suggesting that I am the "government" of this site? Yes, I am. You are the sole administrator, are you not? Then as a government, I am established by God, and my authority comes from God himself. My statement that I will not act as moderator is therefore true. And even if I did act as moderator, it is God's will and you should have no problem with it. Glad that's settled. Onward with the debate!
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KevinR
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Post by KevinR on Mar 17, 2010 18:19:09 GMT -5
Are you suggesting that I am the "government" of this site? Yes, I am. You are the sole administrator, are you not? Then as a government, I am established by God, Onward with the debate! Straw man argument based on what you were taught in Sunday School by your own admission. Not all governments are established by God. In fact I can't think of any right now that were established BY God. Do you want to abandon this or continue wrongly stating our position? Government in general, obedience to various laws WAS established by God. Such as "Do not murder". And all governments have that responsibility before God. God says killing people who should not die, and keeping people alive who should not live profanes Him. (See Ezekiel 13:19)
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Post by noski on Mar 18, 2010 10:40:16 GMT -5
When did the Jewish commandment "Thou shall not KILL" turn into 'You shall not murder' Did the Jews OK the changing of the wording of their text?
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Post by noski on Mar 18, 2010 10:44:15 GMT -5
And why do guys keep quoting the Jewish canon which refers to the Jewish God, Yaweh ? (Ezekiel)
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Post by Stephen on Mar 18, 2010 16:37:17 GMT -5
Not all governments are established by God. In fact I can't think of any right now that were established BY God. Do we then agree that: A) Government today is unrelated to God. B) The governments of the world have been given to Satan "for they have been given to him, and he can give them to anyone he wants to."
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Post by Stephen on Mar 18, 2010 16:38:12 GMT -5
And why do guys keep quoting the Jewish canon which refers to the Jewish God, Yaweh ? (Ezekiel) I believe you already know the answer to your own question, so go ahead and spring your trap now. I don't know that you'll accept the answer, but it is a good question and there is one. I'd recommend a new thread for it.
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Post by Michael on Mar 18, 2010 17:35:18 GMT -5
Not all governments are established by God. In fact I can't think of any right now that were established BY God. Do we then agree that: A) Government today is unrelated to God. B) The governments of the world have been given to Satan "for they have been given to him, and he can give them to anyone he wants to." Neither of those statments are true, you should get the book I'm reading, " The Light and the Glory".
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KevinR
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Post by KevinR on Mar 18, 2010 17:42:29 GMT -5
When did the Jewish commandment "Thou shall not KILL" turn into 'You shall not murder' Did the Jews OK the changing of the wording of their text? When did the Jewish commandment in the Hebrew Scriptures become "Thou shalt not kill"? The original language wasn't King James English. The answer to your question is that the Bible was translated into even more modern English and there is nothing wrong with that at all.
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KevinR
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Post by KevinR on Mar 18, 2010 17:46:50 GMT -5
And why do guys keep quoting the Jewish canon which refers to the Jewish God, Yaweh ? (Ezekiel) We believe Yahweh and Yeshua Hamashiach are both members of the same Godhead. Father and Son.
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Post by Stephen on Mar 19, 2010 10:16:38 GMT -5
Not all governments are established by God. In fact I can't think of any right now that were established BY God. Kevin, do we then agree that: A) Government today is unrelated to God. B) The governments of the world have been given to Satan "for they have been given to him, and he can give them to anyone he wants to."
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Post by Stephen on Mar 19, 2010 10:18:05 GMT -5
Neither of those statments are true Please name an extant government that you consider Godly, righteous, uncorrupted and representative of God on earth.
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KevinR
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Post by KevinR on Mar 19, 2010 13:14:33 GMT -5
Neither of those statments are true Please name an extant government that you consider Godly, righteous, uncorrupted and representative of God on earth. Sweden? ;D (Joke)
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