The Official Ludendorff Campaign Thread

[Michael]

Mar 28, 2010 16:09:21 GMT -5 albpilot said:

Mar 28, 2010 15:29:59 GMT -5 Stephen said:

Yup, I looked it up. If Michael was in an Alb, it was an illegal shot.

Observers must make the bomb drop in all Albatros C models. If he's aiming and dropping, he can't be aiming and shooting a machine gun.

Actually easy to correct. Take back the four hits, keep the plane on squadron roll, and we lose 25 points from the total score (meaning each side scored 75 pts).

However, I believe that he fired at the Bristol the turn AFTER the bomb was dropped. I got up from the Butler game to do the bomb resolution then a second time for a question about the strafe. If this is indeed the case, everything was resolved correctly.

Michael, double check your log and see if you did indeed fire the same turn as bomb drop or the turn after please.

I looked at my log and I did these actions on two separate turns:

First turn: bombs dropped.
Second turn: strafing run.

We're all good. ;D

[albpilot]

Mar 28, 2010 18:08:16 GMT -5 Michael said:

Mar 28, 2010 16:09:21 GMT -5 albpilot said:

Actually easy to correct. Take back the four hits, keep the plane on squadron roll, and we lose 25 points from the total score (meaning each side scored 75 pts).

However, I believe that he fired at the Bristol the turn AFTER the bomb was dropped. I got up from the Butler game to do the bomb resolution then a second time for a question about the strafe. If this is indeed the case, everything was resolved correctly.

Michael, double check your log and see if you did indeed fire the same turn as bomb drop or the turn after please.

I looked at my log and I did these actions on two separate turns:

First turn: bombs dropped.
Second turn: strafing run.

We're all good. ;D

Ok, thanks...bring that log with you next game so I can verify as GM please.

Stephen, does that suit you?

[Stephen]

No need to verify - I'm sure he's right. I think he nearly looped into the ground the following turn IIRC.

[KevinR]

Mar 28, 2010 19:51:24 GMT -5 Stephen said:

No need to verify - I'm sure he's right. I think he nearly looped into the ground the following turn IIRC.

I am certain it was 2 separate turns as well. I remember specifically. No need to verify.

[KevinR]

Mar 28, 2010 16:15:17 GMT -5 albpilot said:

Additionally, I need some plane information from Wayne for bookkeeping (number of hits in each area, any crits) and if Kevin could send me a separate email ([e-mail]) it would help me as the GM for the campaign.

Kevin, I would like to know the following:

Original squadron roll
what planes are dead
what planes are damaged
when you lost planes, when the replacements roll on.

This will help me to determine if there will be an unexpected weather front come through for a couple of days, lol.

Rick I will be tied up pretty heavily with school the next couple of days, but I will have the info back to you by the end of the week.

[albpilot]

Mar 29, 2010 17:17:48 GMT -5 KevinR said:

Mar 28, 2010 16:15:17 GMT -5 albpilot said:

Additionally, I need some plane information from Wayne for bookkeeping (number of hits in each area, any crits) and if Kevin could send me a separate email ([e-mail]) it would help me as the GM for the campaign.

Kevin, I would like to know the following:

Original squadron roll
what planes are dead
what planes are damaged
when you lost planes, when the replacements roll on.

This will help me to determine if there will be an unexpected weather front come through for a couple of days, lol.

Rick I will be tied up pretty heavily with school the next couple of days, but I will have the info back to you by the end of the week.

As your schedule permits, no rush.

[Michael]

Mar 28, 2010 18:08:16 GMT -5 Michael said:

Mar 28, 2010 16:09:21 GMT -5 albpilot said:

Actually easy to correct. Take back the four hits, keep the plane on squadron roll, and we lose 25 points from the total score (meaning each side scored 75 pts).

However, I believe that he fired at the Bristol the turn AFTER the bomb was dropped. I got up from the Butler game to do the bomb resolution then a second time for a question about the strafe. If this is indeed the case, everything was resolved correctly.

Michael, double check your log and see if you did indeed fire the same turn as bomb drop or the turn after please.

I looked at my log and I did these actions on two separate turns:

First turn: bombs dropped.
Second turn: strafing run.

We're all good. ;D

And now Garrett has given us video evidence to prove it.

[garrett]

Yo welcome.
That dont mean Im joinin yo side.
Yo gotta owe me one!

[albpilot]

Mar 30, 2010 12:39:23 GMT -5 garrett said:

Yo welcome.
That dont mean Im joinin yo side.
Yo gotta owe me one!

That's funny.

[albpilot]

Ok, on the subject of combat ineffective. I didn't really think that it was possible a side would be reduced to not enough planes to utilize on a mission, but based on what I saw last game, there is a real possibility that either side could run into this (I won't know for sure till I get the info for the Allied side). Therefore, I think I'm going to have to add a contingency to the rules for this. Based on my thoughts so far, here are the possibilities I have come up with:

A) If a side cannot field enough planes (or have planes that cannot do the missions remaining), that side cedes initiative to the OPFOR until their plane strength comes back up and must role randomly for planes as defenders and NOT use pilots from the campaign (illustrating the CO of the unit telling his boss they cannot undertake missions and another unit must cover). Not sure I like this vis-a-vis game balance but it is probably the closest thing to simulating what would actually happen.

B) A weather front moves through for enough time that each side comes back up to strength...this can take missions away from the campaign or it can extend the campaign, whichever the majority prefers.

C) We have each side continue per rules already established and any player without a plane rolls randomly on the appropriate chart using a non campaign pilot (illustrating a 'loaner' from a neighboring squadron).

If none of these sound plausible, feel free to make suggestions here and I'll make a decision before next gaming session.

[Stephen]

I shall ponder this overnight and share my opinion-of-questionable-worth on the morrow.

[KevinR]

Rick I sent you the details.

[KevinR]

I'd be for just adding a bad storm in on 3/23 and 3/24, and return on 3/25 and make that our next mission date. That would make us miss 3 missions. We could pick up 2 of them maybe by adding one day at the end.......

[KevinR]

Another idea could be, because of the dire straits of both squadrons, an extra team of mechanics was mobilized to work overtime and help repair the planes, HALVING the repair time and the return time for planes UP TO the 26th, then they go home and we return to regular campaign rules.....

[Michael]

I have an inclination toward option "A", but if no one else wants to go there then I'll be okay the weather front problem. (It just doesn't seem right, letting a little rain get the best of battle hardened aviators)