Final days of the US as we knew it

[albpilot]

Wow. Just Wow.

www.washingtonwatch.com/bills/show/111_HR_2159.html

If you are not politically active, you should be with this sort of idiocy going on. Wake up. If you are, get ahold of your reps and let them know this bit of idiocy should never be made law.

[albpilot]

"TRUTH" as reported by the foreign press...

english.pravda.ru/opinion/columnists/107459-0/

Bonus points for anyone who catches the title....

[albpilot]

This is a GREAT view...

www.youtube.com/watch?v=thR-lVuztIY

[albpilot]

Madre de Dios...

dprogram.net/2009/06/15/pentagon-multiple-choice-dissenting-americans-are-terrorists/

Unbelieveable.

[albpilot]

Well, the process started at the front of the decade has reached it's logical conclusion...

www.infowars.com/bill-gives-attorney-general-power-to-designate-gun-owners-tax-protesters-as-terrorists/

The quote from Star Wars comes to mind...

"So this is how liberty dies... with thunderous applause." - Padme Amidala.

[albpilot]

I just have to post this here. This is a list of some of the stupid crap in the health insurance reform currently in the Congress (house version):


Pg 22 of the HC Bill MANDATES the Govt will audit books of ALL EMPLOYERS that self insure!!

Pg 30 Sec 123 of HC bill - THERE WILL BE A GOVT COMMITTEE that decides what treatments/benes u get

Pg 29 lines 4-16 in the HC bill - YOUR HEALTHCARE IS RATIONED!!!


Pg 42 of HC Bill - The Health Choices Commissioner will choose UR HC Benefits 4 you. U have no choice!

PG 50 Section 152 in HC bill - HC will be provided 2 ALL non US citizens, illegal or otherwise

Pg 58HC Bill - Govt will have real-time access 2 individs finances & a National ID Healthcard will b issued!

Pg 59 HC Bill lines 21-24 Govt will have direct access 2 ur banks accts 4 elect. funds transfer

PG 65 Sec 164 is a payoff subsidized plan 4 retirees and their families in Unions & community orgs (ACORN).

Pg 72 Lines 8-14 Govt is creating an HC Exchange 2 bring priv HC plans under Govt control.

PG 84 Sec 203 HC bill - Govt mandates ALL benefit pkgs 4 priv. HC plans in the Exchange

PG 85 Line 7 HC Bill - Specs for of Benefit Levels for Plans = The Govt will ration ur Healthcare!

PG 91 Lines 4-7 HC Bill - Govt mandates linguistic approp svcs. Example - Translation 4 illegal aliens

Pg 95 HC Bill Lines 8-18 The Govt will use groups i.e., ACORN & Americorps 2 sign up indiv. for Govt HC plan

PG 85 Line 7 HC Bill - Specs of Ben Levels 4 Plans. #AARP members - U Health care WILL b rationed

-PG 102 Lines 12-18 HC Bill - Medicaid Eligible Indiv. will b automat.enrolled in Medicaid. No choice

pg 124 lines 24-25 HC No company can sue GOVT on price fixing. No "judicial review" against Govt Monop

pg 127 Lines 1-16 HC Bill - Doctors/ #AMA - The Govt will tell YOU what u can make.

Pg 145 Line 15-17 An Employer MUST auto enroll employees into pub opt plan. NO CHOICE

Pg 126 Lines 22-25 Employers MUST pay 4 HC 4 part time employees AND their families.

Pg 149 Lines 16-24 ANY Emplyr w payroll 400k & above who does not prov. pub opt. pays 8% tax on all payroll

pg 150 Lines 9-13 Biz w payroll btw 251k & 400k who doesnt prov. pub. opt pays 2-6% tax on all payroll

Pg 167 Lines 18-23 ANY individual who doesnt have acceptable HC accrdng 2 Govt will be taxed 2.5% of inc

Pg 170 Lines 1-3 HC Bill Any NONRESIDENT Alien is exempt from indiv. taxes. (Americans will pay)

Pg 195 HC Bill -officers & employees of HC Admin (GOVT) will have access 2 ALL Americans finan/pers recs

PG 203 Line 14-15 HC - "The tax imposed under this section shall not be treated as tax" Yes, it says that

Pg 239 Line 14-24 HC Bill Govt will reduce physician svcs 4 Medicaid. Seniors, low income, poor affected

Pg 241 Line 6-8 HC Bill - Doctors, doesnt matter what specialty u have, you'll all be paid the same

PG 253 Line 10-18 Govt sets value of Dr's time, prof judg, etc. Literally value of humans.

PG 265 Sec 1131Govt mandates & controls productivity for private HC industries

PG 268 Sec 1141 Fed Govt regulates rental & purchase of power driven wheelchairs

PG 272 SEC. 1145. TREATMENT OF CERTAIN CANCER HOSPITALS - Cancer patients - welcome to rationing!

Page 280 Sec 1151 The Govt will penalize hospitals 4 what Govt deems preventable readmissions.

Pg 298 Lines 9-11 Drs, treat a patient during initial admiss that results in a readmiss-Govt will penalize u.

Pg 317 L 13-20 OMG!! PROHIBITION on ownership/investment. Govt tells Drs. what/how much they can own.

Pg 317-318 lines 21-25,1-3 PROHIBITION on expansion- Govt is mandating hospitals cannot expand

pg 321 2-13 Hospitals have oppt to apply for exception BUT community input required. Can u say ACORN?!!

Pg335 L 16-25 Pg 336-339 - Govt mandates estab. of outcome based measures. HC the way they want. Rationing

Pg 341 Lines 3-9 Govt has authority 2 disqual Medicare Adv Plans, HMOs, etc. Forcing peeps in2 Govt plan

Pg 354 Sec 1177 - Govt will RESTRICT enrollment of Special needs ppl! WTF. My sis has down syndrome!!

Pg 379 Sec 1191 Govt creates more bureaucracy - Telehealth Advisory Cmtte. Can u say HC by phone?

PG 425 Lines 4-12 Govt mandates Advance Care Planning Consult. Think Senior Citizens end of life

Pg 425 Lines 17-19 Govt will instruct & consult regarding living wills, durable powers of atty. Mandatory!

PG 425 Lines 22-25, 426 Lines 1-3 Govt provides apprvd list of end of life resources, guiding u in death

PG 427 Lines 15-24 Govt mandates program 4 orders 4 end of life. The Govt has a say in how ur life ends

Pg 429 Lines 1-9 An "adv. care planning consult" will b used frequently as patients health deteriorates

PG 429 Lines 10-12 "adv. care consultation" may incl an ORDER 4 end of life plans. AN ORDER from GOV

Pg 429 Lines 13-25 - The govt will specify which Doctors can write an end of life order.

PG 430 Lines 11-15 The Govt will decide what level of treatment u will have at end of life

Pg 469 - Community Based Home Medical Services=Non profit orgs. Hello, ACORN Medical Svcs here!!?

Page 472 Lines 14-17 PAYMENT TO COMMUNITY-BASED ORG. 1 monthly payment 2 a community-based org. Like ACORN?

PG 489 Sec 1308 The Govt will cover Marriage & Family therapy. Which means they will insert Govt in2 ur marriage

Pg 494-498 Govt will cover Mental Health Svcs including defining, creating, rationing those svcs

Here's the full Health Care bill that sits in the House.

[Stephen]

I really didn't think that it was possible to get anyone any worse than Bush, but I have to admit that this clown is giving him a run for his money.

This is not health care... its a massive domestic spying campaign.

[KevinR]

Now we agree again Stephen.

Obama is far worse than Bush and time will show that. (Not that I'm a Bush fan)

[Stephen]

"Worse" as in domestic policy. Bush destroyed the dollar, crushed what little freedom Americans still had, and ran roughshod over the constitution... but Obama has - somehow - managed to improve on Bush's record.

To Obama's credit, he's not murdered nearly as many people (yet). Bush is responsible for the deaths of untold thousands of people and he will answer to God for it... unless someone here has the good sense to prosecute him, which is unlikely.

So it seems we have a dead heat with Bush taking the lead as a killer and invasive spymaster, but Obama is closing the gap fast with his universal government programs that would make the Anti-Christ swell with pride.

The American Empire is doomed. As it should be.

[KevinR]

Aug 3, 2009 15:59:47 GMT -5 Stephen said:

Bush is responsible for the deaths of untold thousands of people and he will answer to God for it........

I agree he will answer to God for it, but disagree with the figure. The # of innocent babies who were murdered in abortion mills during his administration (which he never lifted a finger to attempt to stop), is in the millions.

[Stephen]

Aug 7, 2009 9:19:22 GMT -5 KevinR said:

I agree he will answer to God for it, but disagree with the figure.

On what evidence and study is your disagreement based?

The # of innocent babies who were murdered in abortion mills during his administration (which he never lifted a finger to attempt to stop), is in the millions.

Let's be careful to study sources and be equally critical or equally accepting of them without bias. And let's also remember that the death of an innocent Iraqi is no more or less important than the death of an innocent American baby. God makes no distinction between the two, and scripture clearly teaches that they are of equal value.

As of June 20th, there were 101,129 documented killings of civilians under the occupation of US troops. Note carefully that these are documented killings, reported by the mainstream press with funeral details and burial sites recorded, and confirmed as civilians in a non-combat role. Also note that the number of innocent civilians blown to bits by US bombs can never be known, and the number of those (bomb victims are generally listed as "missing") is many times greater than the number of known, recorded killings with a body recovered and identified.

If one calculates Iraqi civilian deaths by the same formula used to calculate civilian deaths in WWII, the number is now roughly one million.

The US Congress' own Iraqi Civilian Deaths report acknowledged that the number of dead Iraqi civilians could be as high as 850,000. And remember, all combat deaths (and deaths deliberately counted as combat deaths to fudge statistics for public consumption) are not included here.

As a comparison, American baby deaths during the Bush regime's killings number about 10.96 million.

So you are correct in that murders committed under Bush's watch in the US are greater than the ones he is directly responsible for killing in Iraq.

However, please be aware that you are drastically underestimating the number of dead by US hands in Iraq and that scripturally, their deaths are of equal importance. You are also accepting without question the number of abortion deaths reported by organizations friendly to your position while denying the accuracy of Iraqi civilian deaths while (if I'm correct) having done no serious study of the topic.

I suggest that if you are going to be highly skeptical of Iraqi civilian death counts, that you apply that same skepticism toward American abortion death claims. On the other hand, if you accept US abortion statistics outright, I recommend that you also be equally accepting of Iraqi civilian death counts unless you have committed serious study to the topic and have solid evidence to justify the difference in your attitude between the two.

[albpilot]

Because, of course, it's the last place for free expression left:

news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-10320096-38.html

Yet another thing we need to hold our elected officlals responsible for if they enact it (and vote their butts out!)

[albpilot]

Well, the guy that wrote this is wrong in the first couple of sentences - it didn't start when O took office, it started about 8 years earlier, but this is still something to be aware of nontheless:

therobalution.com/?p=1178

[albpilot]

online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704545004575352983850463108.html?mod=WSJ_hpp_MIDDLETopStories

Yet another example of how we are letting our freedom be taken from us bit by bit.

[albpilot]

Holy Mother of God....

Now they want to create a database to track a person's compensation from a job. Unbelieveable.

cnsnews.com/news/article/69746

I woulda thought this was a GOP item if I hadn't read it. More example of how there is literally no difference between the 2 major parties anymore.