Jim53221
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Post by Jim53221 on Aug 16, 2006 16:24:04 GMT -5
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Post by Stephen on Aug 23, 2006 8:17:28 GMT -5
I saw the trailer and it seems way over the top. As a historical piece it seems to be a travesty... but perhaps it will be fun to watch and spur interest in WWI aviation. We'll see. A friend of mine knows one of the actors and saw an advance viewing of the film a few months ago.
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Post by bergovoy on Aug 23, 2006 15:45:46 GMT -5
What is important to meis , are the aircraft accuratly portrayed, are the combat scenes realistic and does the movie at least follow sort of a historical premise, it doesn't have to be perfect, as they rarely are
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Post by Stephen on Aug 23, 2006 22:06:21 GMT -5
They have N.17's fighting Fokker Triplanes. Does that tell you anything?  |
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noski
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Post by noski on Aug 26, 2006 10:09:16 GMT -5
Most of the world thinks that German pilots flew Fokker Tripes exclusively. Of course historical accuracy goes out the window, but I hope the movie spurs interst in WW1 flying. At least the uniforms and AC look right even though the time period is 1916 and the Tripe didn't deploy until late 1917.
Come to think of it, my Tripe ace has a N-17 on his record...
Dan
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Post by Stephen on Aug 27, 2006 18:12:09 GMT -5
Come to think of it, my Tripe ace has a N-17 on his record... Not over an American pilot! ;D That's what the film portrays. |
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albpilot
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Post by albpilot on Aug 28, 2006 9:16:45 GMT -5
They have N.17's fighting Fokker Triplanes. Does that tell you anything? How do you know they weren't N28's? They look an awfully lot alike in the pics I've seen... |
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Post by albpilot on Aug 28, 2006 9:17:49 GMT -5
Come to think of it, my Tripe ace has a N-17 on his record... Not over an American pilot! ;D That's what the film portrays. Actually the film is about the Lafayette escadrille, so it would be possible to have a kill of an American pilot in an N17.... ;D |
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Post by Stephen on Aug 28, 2006 11:42:27 GMT -5
Its a stretch, but okay... I can go with that. I know of no US pilots brought down by DrI's, and certainly none while flying a N.17 which was being phased out by late '17 in favor of the SPAD. I wonder what planes the Lafayette was flying when the DrI was introduced? Maybe a few Nieups were still in service. Only one instance is known where a US pilot downed a DrI... in mid-18 Lt. Bob Todd was flying a Camel when he shot down an all-black DrI. Anyway, the whole US vs. DrI thing is interesting. Not sure it lends much authenticity to the movie, but hey... who are we to complain? We have dogfights that gain altitude! |
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Post by Stephen on Aug 28, 2006 11:43:59 GMT -5
How do you know they weren't N28's? They look an awfully lot alike in the pics I've seen... They had four N.17's built for the film. They crashed two of them during production (intentionally). |
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Post by AP on Sept 5, 2006 20:17:47 GMT -5
Historical accuracy set aside, at LEAST its a WW1 aviation movie!! Hopefully it sparks a newfound interest in the subject & brings out more DP players. IF you havent seen the 5 min. battle sequence yet, gotta check it out- movies.yahoo.com/feature/flyboys.htmlYeah, its not right that all Germans fly Dr.Is, but it still looks awfully cool!! |
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Post by Stephen on Sept 7, 2006 7:20:12 GMT -5
Five minute sequence? Wow. I will have to look at it.
I guess my issue with it is this: some stories don't need fictionalizing. I find truth stranger than fiction anyway. WWI aviation is already romantic and fascinating enough without appealing to the comic book crowd. The film TITANIC was one of the very, very few movies that benefited from adding fiction... and in that film, they were strictly historical in every aspect, far more so than in FLYBOYS. To fictionalize the characters a bit for the sake of the plot is sacrifice enough for me. To fictionalize the setting itself - such as is done is FLYBOYS - is too much.
Be that as it may, I must agree that I'd rather see the film come out than not. I hope its fun to watch.
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Post by AP on Sept 7, 2006 9:33:26 GMT -5
Yes, those of us that have studied the era know that the real life stories of these pilots were much more exciting than anything Hollywood could make up, but at least its a start. The thing that impresses me is that they could have used entirely CGI created aircraft, but they went through the painstaking process of using actual aircraft for as many shots as possible...check out the article in last months Smithsonian Air & Space Magazine... www.mgm.com/flyboys/pdf/press/take_two_the_art_of_creating_wwi_air_space.pdf One last point & I'll quit the senseless movie promo... almost all WW1 aviation fans I know seem to consider 'The Blue Max' to be 'a classic' WW1 aviation film...in which the main characters & whole story are ENTIRELY fictional & Tiger Moths are used as SE5's...I seem to remember hearing a story once upon a time how this movie helped inspire a particular game called Fight in the Skies that we have all played maybe once or twice... I just hope this new movie will spark more interest in WW1 aviation like The Blue Max once did... If it does well & many of us support it, who knows, maybe a 'Band of Brothers' type series about WW1 avaition may pop up- it worked with Private Ryan! |
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